Barack Obama for President (?)
Let me preface this post with this: Ron Paul is still my guy by a mile. Secondly, I'm not suddenly sympathetic to modern liberal philosophy. But unfortunately Ron Paul is not going to win the nomination and the choice is going to be between Clinton and Obama or Romney and McCain. In 2004, I just voted for the Constitution Party candidate rather than vote for Bush (as I reluctantly did in 2000) or Kerry. And certainly, I have little in common with Obama's positions. On economics, it's more of the same left-wing ideas of higher taxes, nudges towards class warfare and other expensive policy proposals along with typical panderings to this or that victim group.
Right now the smart money is on McCain for the Republican ticket. I agree with McCain on more issues than I do Obama. And McCain is hardly as liberal as his conservative critics make him out to be, though on several key issues he is to the left of the base. But McCain is certainly not a libertarian nor is he a staunch conservative in the traditional sense. All of today's "mainstream conservatives" are in lockstep with inflationary policies and fiscal irresponsibility. McCain, at least, talks about cutting spending as a prerequisite to the right kind of tax cuts. And he's right, tax cuts without spending cuts just lead to larger deficits.But McCain and the rest of the GOP have no problem racking up huge spending overseas and around the world with out of control spending for the Warfare State. And this is McCain's major claim to fame right now. He says he has no problem having an American presence in Iraq for "100 years." He shows no desire to bring troops home from bases around the world where they've been for decades. He is generally belligerent towards any nation not on the USA's preferred list of nations. He makes a huge fuss about supporting the "surge" even though Republicans in general supported the surge. McCain, like the rest of the party, has sided with the President rather than the majority of the country on the desired direction to take with Iraq. If it was possible, and it looks to be like it is, McCain could be even much worse than President Bush in terms of foreign policy.
Clinton would be little better. She will prove that she's "tough" by dealing harshly with other nations. I have little doubt she'd keep troops in Iraq indefinitely, despite her friendly gesture to the liberal base about scaling down troop masses. Romney basically holds to McCain's positions without the military veteran credentials behind it.Obama at least shows a desire to engage with other nations. Whereas Clinton mocks him for wanting to talk to America's "enemies," this seems to be more about pride than productivity. Obama is sincere when he says he's always opposed the war. Clinton's vote in 2002 was the popular thing to do at the time when most the country was behind the concept of an invasion. Her position changed when it no longer became politically popular. The Clinton's have always been opportunists and the way they've campaigned, and how former Presisent Bill Clinton-- "America's First Black President"-- has tried to racially polarize the electorate has been shameful.
In terms of likeability, Obama wins by a longshot. I think he's sincere about wanting to bring both sides together. George Bush campaigned in 2000 as a "uniter, not a divider" and has been one of the most divisive Presidents in recent history. But Clinton II is just as, if more, divisive than her husband and the current President. After 16 years of this, and as America grows more divided, Obama has the best shot at reversing the mutual disdain of Red and Blue states, though I don't have many illusions that we will all be singing Kumbaye together anytime shortly.To be sure, Clinton and McCain are both more "qualified" than Obama. Clinton has slightly more experience as a legislator and McCain has been in elected office for many years. But what kind of experience are they bringing to the table? For the above mentioned reasons, not the right kind in my opinion. Also, and perhaps one of the most important reasons to vote for Obama is it would be a slap in the face to the Old Guard establishment on both sides. Polls show the same thing generally: Clinton wins the older vote, Obama wins the younger vote. McCain's rallies are full of elderly men in VFW caps. Even if it is mostly rhetoric, Obama at least inspires people and taps into youthful energy in the electorate.It's for these reasons, and several others, I'll be very reluctantly cheering on Obama for the rest of the 2008 election.
Prediction: Prediction: If Obama is the nominee, you won't see the Christian Right march in lockstep with the Republican Party for once in decades. For one thing, even though McCain really is a social conservative, and much more socially conservative politically than Obama, the Christian Right still by and large treats him as a pariah. If McCain makes Huckabee his running mate, that would stem the tide a bit, but then you irritate an equal or larger segment of Republicans who don't think either of them are real economic conservatives. If Hillary is the nominee, all the conservative complainers will vote for McCain despite their assertions now that they will stay home. But if it's Obama vs. McCain, all bets are off. The Old Guard Christian Right will endorse McCain. But many younger Evangelicals, who already have shown some independence philosophically in recent years, will break rank. Obama is, after all, much more vocal about his faith than McCain. And he seems much more "relevant."
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Once Paul is finally out of the race, I think there will be many Paulians flocking to Obama for those very reasons you mentioned. Will it be too late though? Paulians won't be able to vote for Obama in the primaries, so they'll have to depend on the registered Democrats to make the right choice. Will they? I certainly hope so. Hillary is the epitome of opportunism, but for some bizarre reason she has staunch supporters. I personally have never met a Hillary supporter. Makes me wonder who's doing all this voting for her. I think it was Molly Ivins who said something fun about Bill Clinton once: "Only a fool or a Republican thinks Bill Clinton is a liberal." Same can be said for Hillary. As you suggest, her vote on Iraq shows how wishy washy she is on her issues. She is so careful to be "centrist" that she doesn't even seem to realize that being centrist means being unable (or unwilling) to think for herself. Hillary will no more end the occupation of Iraq than McCain will. Instead, she wants to get into further pissing contests with Iran, North Korea, etc. just so she can prove that she can play with the big boys. It boggles my mind that her devotees can't see this.
But should we really "hold our noses" (as a friend of mine put it) and vote for Obama? It's my opinion that it doesn't matter who gets elected; nothing will "change", despite every candidates' empty promise to that effect. I have a recent blog about this, but I won't go into detail. Ultimately, any solution to real change has to start at an individual level. We affect people on a one by one, day by day basis. Like you do with your blog and articles, like I do with my dialogue with friends and family (and hopefully one day, my art). A serious shift in consciousness has to occur before America can possibly undergo any radical change. A new face behind the desk in the Oval Office is not really going to have any significant effect.
Despite your explanation I don't understand how a Ron Paul supporter could ever really support Obama. Go to Obama's website and download his Blueprint for America. Look at his statements on the issues.
- He says that affordable healthcare is a "right".
- He doesn't have any problem with our interventionist foreign policies. He's only against the war in Iraq for political reasons.
- He voted FOR Real ID.
- He voted for the revised Patriot Act.
- He supports the UN War on Poverty, which obligates the United States taxpayers to fund UN schemes around the world.
- He favors federally mandating 7 days of sick leave.
I could go on and on and on. The scariest part to me though is something that you claimed was a positive. He will be able to get things done. People will unite behind him and his socialist plans. At least with Hillary the Republicans will stand up to her.
That's the last thing we need. A president who can bring all of the authoritarian politicians in DC together for a common purpose.
I don't "support" him but between him and McCain's militarism, I'll quietly root for Obama, especially during the primaries. I've had enough of Bush's and Clintons.
Christians should never play the lesser-of-two-evils game, as it is still supporting evil no matter what justification is given.
Well then, Braden, I guess none of us should vote, because there is no perfect candidate, not even the purist third party types.
This is going to be a long comment regarding Braden's thread and your response, but...:
My wife always asks me how I can justify writing about politics (mostly to point out its imperfections --that's putting it mildly) even though I haven't voted for the last three Presidential elections. I give her the reasoning Braden just gave: Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil. If our choice of three candidates comes down to 1)an old war vet saying we should stay in Iraq for 100 years, 2) a former First Lady trying to act tough who wouldn't rule out nukes against Iran as an option, and 3) a green politician who says that if Pakistan refuses to cooperate on our hunt for terrorists, military force is on the table --well then I guess every candidate available to us is advocating murder. Why sell my soul to participate in such a sham process as our pseudo-democratic, "electoral oligarchy" national elections? If America was a real democracy (meaning, the people actually ruled and made policy decisions) we would have been out of Iraq once we found out we were suckered into it with misleading information (right around 2005 or so). Likewise, Cheney, at the very least, would be out of a job. But despite overwhelming public opinion on policy matters, our runaway government refuses to listen to it. That's not a democracy. It's not even a "representative" democracy. It's Washington elites doing as they please. It's not a democracy if a small elite group of people are nominated for the Presidency, and a small elite group of people decide who those nominees are. If the only candidates being offered as choices are ones who have advocated murder in the form of foreign conflict, then I refuse to vote at all. But this doesn't invalidate me in any way or mean I can't participate in the discussion. I can't tell you how many people have told me, "If you don't vote, you have no say." Since when does activism and dissent become qualified only after participating in a staged popularity contest? Since when does freedom of speech begin and end with a trip to the ballot box? The thing that makes this country great is I can exercise my right to not advocate any candidate if I don't think they will lead this country in the right direction --and then voice my opinion about it! I agree with you, Bill, that Obama is the most likely candidate (at least in the short term) to avoid additional commitment of troops. But I say "most likely" in comparison to the other two hawks; it's not saying much. But I think what braden was saying is that evil is evil. Let's say Bush announced today that he's holding a special election for the American people. He's going to nuke a target and we have the choice of a)Iran or b)North Korea. Now make your pick. Some people might say, "Oh, well, I don't agree with either, but I might as well factor in how many people will be killed and which one would likely have worse future ramifications and vote for the lesser of the two evils." Where's option c)no nuclear engagement at all? Or how about d)cast a NEGATIVE vote, taking a vote AWAY for one of those options. If they had that at a Presidential election, I would vote at each and every one. I would take votes away from the Bushes and the Clintons and the McCains without hesitation. But instead, you cast a "Yes" vote for "your" candidate. I don't want to sully my conscience with that sort of affirmation, so I'll skip the election. Again.
If the American people can somehow break the power system and the money system and the media system enough to put a real quality candidate up there, and one who actually has a shot at winning (sort of like how the peasants of Bolivia did a few years ago), then I'll participate in the elections with glee. I'm not going to hold my breath for that, but I won't entirely lose all my hope either.
Unfortunately, it is difficult to tell exactly what Obama's faith is. Anybody can claim Christianity, but his voting record is far, far out of line with Biblical Christianity.
And the black liberation theology that he's listened to in church for the last 20 years ought to tell us something as well.
Unfortunately it is difficult to tell exactly what Obama's faith is. Anyone can claim Christianity. However, his voting record is certainly far, far out of line with Biblical Christianity.
And the black liberation theology he's listened to in church for the last 20 years ought to tell us something as well.
You should start posting again, Bill!
I will keep this short and it certainly won't be exhaustive.
Obama represents all that is wrong politically in this country. He sees us as being part of a voting block with our European allies. He is a multiculturalist. So are Europeans. That is why Europeans like and want him to be president.
However, it is clear that Europe is in a state of decline and followers of Islam and multiculturalism are slowly taking control of those countries, and it is winning through multiculturalism rather than flying planes into buildings.
America needs to take it's clue from Europe. If they like Obama, then we should take careful pause and ask why. Do we really need Europe's approval to exist as a nation?
We are going to have to muster up our courage, buck up, and vote for Mccain. This will not be so much a vote for him, but a vote against Obama and all that he is bringing to the table. Obama will severely weaken the USA at home and abroad and Christains of good faith must vote for McCain to send a clear message to the multiculturalists and Islamofacists that we are not going o accept their world vision.
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Obama is a cold blooded baby killer,
no true Christian could ever support him for any reason!
How do you feel now, Bill? Obama and his spendlust congress are going to sell this whole country up the river.
We the baby boomers will be left with worthless 401Ks, no social security, and maybe a national health plan, where the government will decide who lives and who dies.
As it should be in any respectable fascist regime.
I feel about the same, because I think the spending orgy would look pretty much the same under a Republican administration. Perhaps a bit worse with Obama, but do we really want to pretend that the tea-partiers are honest about this stuff either? They can protest about bailouts, but they turned a blind eye when their own were spending like drunken sailors for eight years. They can harp about pork projects that are a small drop in the overall bucket, but they won't touch controversial social programs, and heaven forbid you call for a reduction in the Warfare State. My position is the same: no viable candidate was perfect, Obama was just less likely to start a new war with Iran or whomever, but it doesn't shock me at all he's not following up on his peace candidate image on Iraq and Afghanistan.
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ah, hindsight is 20/20 right? so much for obama bringing bipartisinship to the party line. obama has, in my opinion, absolutely no interest in working with either party; he's just moving is own personal agenda forward.
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