Thursday, March 22, 2007

Letter from a True Christian

In response to my column John Hagee Wants War with Iran and He Wants It Now!, one reader writes:

Well, as you yourself say, "maybe, just maybe YOU are wrong"!
You are as phony as what you write about.
Your rant is about an unknownable timeline based on an unprovable assumption by you, about a POSSIBLE event, and that Hagee is wrong and that YOU "maybe, just maybe" might be right??
Your pathetic "assumptions" and "hopefully's" are just as "dangerous" and as inconclusive as you say his are because YOU believe YOU are right and HE (Hagee) is "dangerous" because he "may be wrong"!

I say to you, "YOU ALSO DO NOT KNOW FOR SURE"!

Are you afraid "this same group of people" (his Ministry?) has the power to nuke Iran? Or start a war over there?
You are a moron! And a fool! You are an educated idiot!

I watch him occassionally but I or any other TRUE Christian, would NEVER attack him and besmirch him and his beliefs as you have just publically done.

You say it is some sort of a "good" to "call this crowd out"!
YOU, mister tough guy? HAHAHAHA!!

What is it you hope to gain? Attention??
How dare you, you little twerp!
What could you possibly hope to gain in your shamefull personal attack on him and his beliefs, that also will reflect on his family and his followers; ALL of whom have done more for more people than you will EVER do because he would NEVER attack you or your beliefs as you have just done to him! HE is a TRUE Christian, NOT YOU!

People will NEVER much follow you or ever really believe in you or your teachings because of this ugly side of you and your self righteous behavior! People around you will always sense this in you. It will ALWAYS come out! That is who you are and what you are all about!

He has founded several churchs and has done much good for MANY people and communities. Have you ever founded anything? And you never will!

How you ever became a pastor is beyond me and YOU sir are one of those types who give Christianity a bad name but you are so arrogant you don't care, because of who you think you are!

You are not a loving or true Christian. If you were either, you would not, you COULD NOT, have ever done this shamefull and disgusting slander. If I could 'call you out" I would beat you to a pulp and maybe make you into a man, maybe even a gentleman to boot. Maybe someday someone will! MEN don't just "call people out"! SOMETHING will happen when you do! You just don't get it!

But until then, you will forever be just nothing but a disgusting little, little man.

Perhaps one day I will know what it means to be a True Christian, just like this awesome guy. There's much that could be said here about his confused theology and worldview, but we'll just let his self-contradictory and totalitarian words speak for themselves.

19 comments:

MrMattyB said...

At least when Bill voices his opinion about somebody, he makes a case for it. Where is this guys Scriptural evidence?

Robin said...

Another brain ruined by government schooling, evidently.

Kevin said...

What ever happened to civil discourse? I guess this guy assumes if he says enough nasty things and uses enough ALL CAPS, he wins the arguement. May God have mercy on His Church.

Bill said...

Any evangelist (tele- or otherwise) not a member of the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability can't be taken seriously.

Where is their accountability for the money their ministry receives?

I admire Gary North for pointing out the logical conclusion of such questionable escatology (but I'm certainly not a Reconstructionist!)

Robin said...

With supporters like Awesome Guy, does John Hagee need enemies? It's all here: the belligerence, the ignorance, the hysteria, the Fuehrerprinzip of total dedication to the Leader. Heck, there's even the lip smacking, Brownshirt sadism of a wholesome street beating. Not exactly good press for the cause.

Yet significantly distinct from the fascism of yore is this sentiment:

"Your rant is about an unknownable timeline based on an unprovable assumption by you, about a POSSIBLE event, and that Hagee is wrong and that YOU "maybe, just maybe" might be right??
Your pathetic "assumptions" and "hopefully's" are just as "dangerous" and as inconclusive as you say his are because YOU believe YOU are right and HE (Hagee) is "dangerous" because he "may be wrong"!

I say to you, "YOU ALSO DO NOT KNOW FOR SURE"!"

This appeal to uncertainty is a postmodern cliche frequently uttered by liberals. AG undoubtedly considers himself the manly foe of left-liberalism, but you'd never know it by reading this screed.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for great article on dangers the world faces from irrationals, armagenodites and other religious fanatics .

I get very scared anytime ANYONE claims GOD is speaking to him/her.

Remember Jim Jones, Charles Manson, David Koresh and others?

I get extremely scared when that someone has a finger on button than can launch nuclear holocaust.

Foxie said...

Interesting blog friend, interesting enough for even an old crone like me to keep reading and enjoying and learning from ..
good stuff hope to see more of your thoughts in the blogsphere..
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Foxie

meek said...

What a perfect example of what "Christianity" has become in America today!! No wonder the world at large is beginning to hate American Christians. We have become the very antithesis of what Christ stood for!

It takes a strong man (or woman) to admit that there are things that we just don't know; after all, there was only one who knew the mind of Yahweh, and that was his only begotten Son.

It is obvious that "True Christian" worships an idol, a man, a religion... a golden calf built in the wilderness to represent the One True God.

Remember this, "True Christian," it is to BELIEVERS in Christ that the following words WILL BE SPOKEN one day...

"I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

Amaranath A.K.A SATAN said...

Dear Pastor Bill Barnwell
The LORD JESUS sends His congratualtions on a good article!!

I've just read your article TV Evangelist John Hagee Wants War With Iran, and He Wants It Now! and I just wanted to say your both hilarious and your right about Hagee!

Here is an alternative view to the false prophet Hagee

THis one comes from Higher Inspiration
look at this article if you will IT WAS PREPARED BY YHWH HIMSELF

http://www.7000menforthelord.com/lost_israel.htm
GOd says "ISRAEL" is the Iraqi, afgan, iran, lebanon, palestinian people AND HE IS NOT JOKING

http://www.7000menforthelord.com/S_I/supporting_Israel.htm

a humorous scriptural look at Hagee's false arguments

http://www.7000menforthelord.com/land/who_deserves_the_land_of_israel.htm

an article proving how wrong Hagee is

Sincerely yours

Amaranath AKA Arch Angel MICHAEL

PS I work for YHWH and unlike Hagee I AM in the business of Prophesy (Daniel 20)

YOU MAY KNOW MY OTHER NAME

SOME CALL ME SATAN

I AM HERE to Herald in the coming return of YAHSHUA THE CHRIST but before that happens YHWH's Wrath is coming to this pathetic planet

Read why OVER 80% of ISRAEL will perrish (not that acursed state of Israel)
http://www.7000menforthelord.com/home.htm

MARK THESE WORDS...

WELL MORE THAN TWO THIRDS OF THAT NATION AND ITS PEOPLE ARE DECREED TO PERRISH..THUS SAITH THE LORD

Keep up the great work
Be Zealouse for the Lord
Sincerely your truly

An Angel of the MOST HIGH GOD
Amaranath
A.K.A SATAN

BELIEVE WHAT YOUR WANT HUMAN
BUT KNOW THIS, THIS WORLD HAS BUT A SHORT TIME LEFT BEFORE THE MOST HIGH GOD'S WRATH COMES UPON IT. LIARS IN CHURCHES SAY "PEACE" PEACE" FOR THERE SHALL BE NO PEACE!!!!!!

Thus saith the Lord, "Ive said my Peace!"

Richard Neva said...

Any TV evangelist that preaches war is a messenger from Hell! Call a spade a spade, when did Jesus ever preach war? Simple test to discredit these miscreants that bilk Americans of their savings to buy their exotic cars.

devosion said...

Obviously this person is right. They use oxymorons like 'educated idiot' to prove their point, and would never besmirch the opinion of Mr. Hagee because it would require deductive reasoning. Most evidently they are the true Christian here because if they saw you they'd drag you out and beat you until they were satisfied that you got the message.

If this is what it means to be a 'true' Christian then im thankful that I am not.

By the way great article Bill. Im definately bookmarking your blog.

Anonymous said...

this is a very interesting article. i spent many years at churches hearing pre-trib mathematical calculations kind of preaching and accepted it as truth, even though i found the speakers/ preachers uninformed and narrow minded (as in the use of the words arab and muslim interchangeably). i am an arab-american woman and christian.

funny how other believers ask me when i converted from islam. what? the church i was baptized in has been there since 450 AD, what were your people doing then? but i digress ...

glad to see someone is actually taking a stand against this dispy rubbish. here is a great website www.christianzionism.org not to be confused with the other rapture ready like site.

here is a sad story from my calvary chapel days in california. so here i am a palestinian-american teen at youth group asking for prayer for a revival (in my small prayer group) in the middle east, afterall i have family living there. the youth pastor's wife answers that God doesnt want REVIVAL and that basically the people are doomed b/c of location.

ALRIGHTY! needless to say i left that church much later for poor church government issues.

anyhow, thanks for your work.

i truley am surprised and saddened by how many christians want war. have you read the blackwater book, our very own michigan Prince family. scary!

Robin said...

I once questioned a warmongering Baptist "evangelist"/John Wayne impersonator who preached in a cowboy costume with a six-gun belt. He looked at my dark hair and wondered aloud if I might be a Palestianian. (I'm a Dutch immigrant).

Matthew Kowalski said...

Amazing response...almost sounds like something you would read in the Screwtape Letters by CS Lewis!

Nice blog as a whole, btw...if you get a chance, check mine out...

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